Tuesday, November 29, 2011

How Alabama's Immigration Law is Crippling its' Farms

Due 2 December 2011. Compare the two articles on the new Alabama Immigration law.

What are the hazards of implementing this law? Be sure to indicate POV (point of view) from the farmers? police? economy? local budgeting? community?

What are the positive points of this law? (POV)

In your opinion, determine if the law should be continued or repealed? In other words, do the costs outweigh the benefits?

11 comments:

  1. The farmers are revolting against the immigration laws due to the fact that they house immigrants. They said that it would lead them to "deal a lethal blow to crops throughout the state..." meaning that they would be losing money, and the productions of crops will decrease. A positive for America is that they believe that it will cause more jobs for Americans, it will cost them more money to pay the workers then the illegal immigrants. The high cost of wages mean that the farmers will have to charge more for crops causing prices for our groceries to rise. In my opinion, the immigration law will not be beneficial for the US. The negative outweighs the positive. It would cost farmers more money to produce and cost more money for us to buy groceries. In How Alabama’s immigration law is crippling its farms, it quotes "Of the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in the country, some 7 million are in the job force" If we were to force the 7 million to leave the job force it would cause more jobs, but it would cost us to pay higher prices for many things.

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  2. The farmers are extremely angry over the Alabama Immigration Laws as the immigrants that are so important to their success are migrating out of Alabama. They are upset due to their loss of "steady, experienced labor", which they need in order to produce crops for distribution. Farmers are not too confident in American workers to actually want to work on the fields and do other farm-oriented activities. Wages would have to increase so workers would go work for the farmers. This would greatly greatly increase the price of crops in Alabama affecting Alabama's agricultural economy. These new laws have impacted the community by the population decrease of about 120,000 illegal immigrants. The police are affected by these new laws as they have to now focus their attention on enforcing these laws as opposed to dealing with various other local and state issues. Local budgeting will be affected by the extra law enforcement that will have to be paid to carry out these laws. Many people in the Alabama are outraged as these laws as they are very strict and are thought of as unfair. Legislators in Alabama see this law as this being an opportunity for American unemployment to decrease as there will be a vast amount of new jobs. This could be considered a positive point of the new laws. In my opinion, I think that the law should be repealed as racial profiling is taking place. Both articles acknowledge the outrage and controversy caused by these laws. We need the immigrants to keep doing the jobs that many Americans wouldn't think of doing. Our economy will suffer if this law continues to be enforced.

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  3. In both of these articles,the major issue is how this law in Alabama is hindering farmers from having enough workers to produce what they need to. The justice department does not want illegal criminals in Alabama so they passed a law that would not allow them to live there. By doing this, all of the immigrants that had been working for the farmers now have to pack their bags, find a new place to live, and leave their jobs. This Alabama law is requiring school children to fill out whether their parents and themselves are illegal immigrants. If so, they will be forced to leave. In the second article, they discuss how there are many other things they could be focusing on and this is just another thing that is going to make it harder for them to work. The big problem here is that if all of these illegal immigrants are forced to leave the state, the farmers will be left with no workers. If this happens, it will be extremely hard to produce at the same level they produced before. They would need to look for U.S. citizens who would be willing to work in the farms but most would either be not willing to, or demand much higher pay. This would lead to an increase in the price of the crops and leave the farmer struggling to make money. There can be a few positives to this law. One would be the money that we use for illegal immigrants. If they are not paying any taxes then they aren't helping our economy. In my opinion though, I believe that this law should be repealed. The costs seem to outweigh the benefits when it come to leaving the farmers with no workers and therefore making their agribusiness uncompetitive. Instead of kicking them out, the state should encourage them and help them to get citizenship.

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  4. By implementing this law, the farmers in Alabama would suffer because most of their workers who pick the crops are immigrants and with this new law they would be losing a large portion of their labor force. The farmers would have to increase the wages in order to get new legal workers to pick the crops. This would cause the farmers to have to sell their crops at a higher price, which would affect the entire economy. The increase in price will, assuming the good is elastic, will cause the demand to decrease, negatively impacting the farmer as well. I believe that in this case, the costs of implementing this law do not outweigh the benefits. The immigrants are the only ones who are willing to work for the current wages. If they are taken away, then the entire farming industry will suffer. I believe that the law should not have ever been passed, and things should've just been left the way they were.

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  5. So before I do this blog, I would just like to say it took me about 10 minutes to figure out where the second article was to compare with the first one… lol
    To begin with, the Alabama Immigration Laws is basically forcing immigrants in Alabama to flee if they do not contain an identifiable source of being a citizen. Both articles mention the issues on the laws and how outrageous they are. The immigrants who work in our fields are being taken out of their work and leaving farmers pissed that they do not have anyone to pick their crops while paying them low wages. Farmers cannot just hire unemployed citizens. They do not have the skill or the experience to pick crops at a steady speed. In return this hurts the farmer. If farmers hired citizens, they would increase their wages which would increase the crop prices in stores. In the end, this inflation would dramatically affect our economy. These laws are not just affecting farmers and citizens, but the police too. People feel as if police will now spend more time tracking down illegal immigrants then arresting criminals. Although the police deny this, I believe that the statement is true. Racial profiling will start to occur and police will spend more time finding the immigrants. For local budgeting would be put more to police and law enforcement encouraging more police to find more immigrants. Like I said before, the crime rates will start to increase since police are arresting immigrants instead of arresting immigrants on the side. In the community, there has been a decrease of 120,000 leave Alabama. This is a good thing to the citizens, since this is what some wanted, but very bad for the economy. The positive point is that the Governor, Robert Bentley, believes that the flee of the immigrants will decrease Alabama’s unemployment rate due to jobs opening up. While jobs are opening up, citizens do not want to work in harsh environments. Also since these people are citizens, the farmers would not be able to pay under the table. The immigrants need to stay and work on the fields. Our economy would only worsen if we took away the labor in the fields. I could not imagine my fruit that I eat costing me $5 for bananas. Also, for the lower class who can not afford to eat like that, obesity would became an even larger problem then it already it. This is not okay.

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  6. So I wrote like a three paraghaph essay on this and all of my writing totally got deleted. There is no way I'm doing that again... I hate blogging right now
    So basically the neegative effects for the farmers was that they did't have any other skilled workers that would work for a low price. the problem for the police was that there wasn't enough of them to work find immigrant and enforceed other laws. the problem with budgeting was that the state couldn't afford to hire people to enforce both the immigration and state laws. the community is annoyed because they are subject to constant citizenship checkings. The onnly possible goood side is that it might encourage immigrant to become legal ones. I think the law should be reapealed. Instead the illegal immmiggrants should be brought through the process of becoming legal.

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  7. In the article from the Washington Post, farmers seem to be very angry about the immigration law that has passed. The elimination of the illegal workers make it hard for them to hire the legal people to work in the field. The legal workers will work only if they are paid the minimum wage unlike the illegal immigrants, who are willing to work regardless of what the wages are. The lawmakers thought that it would definitely help the legal unemployed people by removing the illegal people and thus creating jobs. However, it is actually hurting our economy. If the cost of producing the goods increases, then the price of the goods would increase also. Many illegal immigrants start to move to other states because of the law and will certainly negatively affect the economy of the nearby states.
    In the article from Fox News, it barely talks about the economic basis for the implement of the law. It focuses on the legal issues. I can understand that the politicians are trying to save our economy and help our people(or seemingly they are), but they need to do it on a realistic basis. They need to realize that our country and our economy need those illegal workers desperately in order to keep our food prices low.

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  8. The immigration situation is discussed in a liberal manner in the Washington Post article. They argue based on the farmers point of view which represents an economic perspective that the fact that illegal immigrants are being deported they must resort to a different method for getting workers. This means they must hire legal workers which means they will have to pay them more. This was in turn increase the price of the goods. As far as budgeting and policing go, they will have to work extra hard and spend more money to ensure that people are actually being caught by the law. The community is probably split; some unconcerned while others outraged. The good things about this bill is that it takes out the people who don't pay consistent taxes to our government from the country. Also it allows Americans to get jobs. I think the benefits outweigh the costs. I believe that improving the economy should be of utmost importance thus keeping the immigrants here with low pay is advantageous.

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  9. Both articles argue that there is an overall negative effect from placing the immigration Law. The Washington Post focuses on how farmers are losing their human capital and their fear that the immigrants won't be replaced. Although the Alabama lawmakers believe the law will increase employment because there are readily spots available, farmers argue that U.S. workers are inexperienced with this kind of field. They predict that if they were to try to appeal to the U.S. workers by raising wages, crop prices would fly through the roof and their produce uncompetitive.
    Fox News focuses on the police officers' point of view and how they're being snatched from arresting criminal immigrants to oblige to the new law. it conflicts with "the broader federal goal of nabbing criminals who are in the country illegally." Alabama's Immigration Law supporters argue that they'll get the "federal folks" involved.
    There seems to be almost no benefits compared to the monstrous effects the law could have on the nation as a whole. It isn't just one group being targeted, it's everyone that is going to be hurt in some fashion. Therefore, I believe that the law should be repealed, as it's stirring up more than we can handle at the moment, and not to mention that it is also considered as racial profiling.

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  10. The two articles have different viewpoints on the issue, one being focused on the farmers and how it effects them and the other on the law enforcement that goes along with it. The hazards of implementing this immigration law are many. There is the problem of a loss in necessary workers, descrimination and resources going to waste on both the farmer and political end. The farmers see this law as them losing their workers and cost going up in every aspect which in the long run will cause the prices of the crops to rise, this could hurt the economy but some also believe that this could open more jobs for Americans while others disagree. Some positive points of this law will the the encouragment of immagration into the U.S. legally and there will be more jobs open for those who are citizens of this country. But even with this I believe the costs do outweigh the benefits and should not be implemented.

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  11. I think it's funny that (in the fox news article) the politicians care so little about what this will do to us economically. While their stance on the subject is understandable, however, this law is, by many standards, an unfavorable means of achieving any goal. You would think of all people politicians would understand how illegal activities affect the money side of things. As for the farmers, they're at a total loss with this law -- With immigrant workers fleeing the state, there's a drop in the supply in the labor market, causing wages for these workers to rise, increasing these farmer's production costs, which will directly affect the price of crops in the state of Alabama. On the upside, legal farm workers would have more job opportunities at a decent wage rate (despite the fact they'll be paying way more for their food). As far law enforcement goes, there's a number of factors to look at... Since there will need to be an enforcement for this law, it will take up a lot of resources. I don't feel this will necessarily raise crime rates, but it certainly will fill up the prisons and create a bunch of new jobs for the enforcement of this law and keeping up with the upkeep of prisons and such. Personally, I feel the law should be repealed because the premise for it is out of context and inappropriate, because I'm sure the initiative to make this law didn't come purely out of the concern for the good of the citizen. Though, looking at it in terms of an socioeconomic standpoint, it's really hard to say with prejudice that one way or the other is better.

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